Even though I’m not your target demographic (58 YO woman), I really appreciate your podcasts. I look forward to them every Tuesday (& Thursday?) morning.
The one thing I noticed with you guys doing a "face to face" broadcast is that you were MORE open. If that's even possible lol. Your bodily "self" showed tremendous empathy. Thats' why I find it so sad that the young don't or can't talk about issues. One of the draw backs of the internet and cellphones. Still, we can't turn the clock back. Even if tRump believes we can and should!
As you say regarding mental health - it should lose it's stigma but until it does don't stop trying to HELP YOURSELF. So many comments came at me during your talk, that the only thing I can say is that the things you say make help others. Wether they realise it or not. Encouraging people to allow other religions to exist solves as lot of problems. Starting with wars and ending with hate of the "other."
I am a therapist. Also, retired from ultra testosterone fueled military career field….fire fighting. In my entire 22 years, there were perhaps half a dozen women that I worked with, never more than one at any station.
As far as mental health and stigma….i tell people we all have”shit”. Anxiety, depression, traumatic memories, bad childhood stuff…..the list is endless. The problem….talking with friends and family is that they have all their hopes and dreams for you and their narrative is often skewed by that and thus unhelpful. When someone new comes to me, I tell them….”This is your time and your agenda, NOT mine.” I follow where they need to go….they “drive”, I “navigate” towards their intended outcome using my knowledge of the DSM-5 and tapping into THEIR internal wisdom. Everyone has EVERYTHING they need internally to heal. My job is to help them discover it in themselves and put it to sound use in a way that makes sense to them.
Acknowledging we all have our shit….helps to de-stigmatize mental health. Why not take care of the stuff between your ears if you are also willing to go to the dentist 2x/year and get your annual physical, bloodwork etc. what happens between our ears impacts our overall health in ways most cannot or will not accept
Yes that’s true that we need to take care of the “stuff between our ears” as well as the rest of our body. Some peoples unhappiness lies in the past. It may not have been traumatic but it does affect us. It keeps us unsure of our choices in life. We forever seek acceptance instead of thinking with conviction. I like your theory of allowing people to lead you to where they want to take it. Then they are opening up to the problem and are able to accept solutions they might not have considered because they just didn’t know. We DO LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES only if we accept we made a mistake in the first place! Thanks for your imput.
I saw a slogan on Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta's Thread - "Make Life Better". I think Dems could run with that. It's simple, clear and can be expanded to whatever group is being addressed.
Your discussion of the mathematics behind logic and music was great. My husband is more math and science minded than I am. He was the person in our household who understood that the initial spread of covid was, in his words, just math.
This non-emotional response helped me extricate myself from a high control religious group that eventually ended up being covid deniers, anti mask, antivax, and deeply distrustful of the Biden administration. Math and logic did that.
I had 1 quarter of Logic in my small town community college. This was the first time I ever met an "AcTuAl DeMoCrAt", and he blew my mind wide open. After that is when I started deconstructing my White Christian Republican education and started thinking for myself.
This was the BEST episode! Pissed off 64 yo woman here. I'm with Rich on the class. Logic and critical thinking are needed badly in the US today. People in red states where education is bad and people are generationally poor lean on their religion in the hope their lives will get better. They buy lottery tickets and pray to Jesus. They feel resentment which simmers and becomes hate which leads to them liking the cruelty perpetuated by the Republucan party. They dont even realize that the repubs are hurting them too. They dont see it because that's their savior! And MAGA resonates with them where peeps like me and hubs look at MAGA and think that slogan is the Repubs saying our country is shit. We think logically. They dont. They look at me, 25 yrs at a company, making 50k and they dont understand how Im poor and homeless. But Im in CA, Im better educated, exposed to more diverse cultures than those poor red state peeps. (Im like Kris, no homework, aced tests.) But living in CA means 50k a year is low income and you cant find a place to live. But my education is why I dont drink the MAGA koolaid. If I couldnt think critically, being as poor as I am, I might buy into MAGA. On mental health Ben Meiselas says living paycheck to paycheck is a form of torture. It is psychological torture. Stress... ugh. Being poor = fear/stress= mental health issues. And yeah, I do have PTSD. But I can still think critically. ;)
I'd like to see self defense taught as a requirement, even better if it was through kinds of traditional martial arts that teach not just the physical aspects but the respect and discipline aspects.
Not only might some people not be such ass hats but also everyone would have a basic idea of how to deal with those ass hats when they meet them.
Trump doesn't explain 'how', intentionally, as a tactic - when he doesn't explain, every maga person will fill in how he is going to accomplish that based on THEIR OWN opinion as to how - then they feel extremely smart, powerful, capable, and secure that things are going to go their way.
Never being told the story at all, they will finish the entire story in their heads with all the exact pieces necessary to manipulate them.
Now, when these people fill in these blanks, they use their personal identity/thoughts/opinions to fill in those blanks - THAT is how and why their identity is completey locked into what Trump says and his party.
I'd like Luke to have more time to speak his mind. He's only ever thrown in a random comment here and there. I think he might feel a little out of place being the youngest one, so if you guys can leave the door open for him and certain areas, thank you.
Even though I’m not your target demographic (58 YO woman), I really appreciate your podcasts. I look forward to them every Tuesday (& Thursday?) morning.
Thank you and we want everyone to enjoy! Appreciate you!
The one thing I noticed with you guys doing a "face to face" broadcast is that you were MORE open. If that's even possible lol. Your bodily "self" showed tremendous empathy. Thats' why I find it so sad that the young don't or can't talk about issues. One of the draw backs of the internet and cellphones. Still, we can't turn the clock back. Even if tRump believes we can and should!
As you say regarding mental health - it should lose it's stigma but until it does don't stop trying to HELP YOURSELF. So many comments came at me during your talk, that the only thing I can say is that the things you say make help others. Wether they realise it or not. Encouraging people to allow other religions to exist solves as lot of problems. Starting with wars and ending with hate of the "other."
I am a therapist. Also, retired from ultra testosterone fueled military career field….fire fighting. In my entire 22 years, there were perhaps half a dozen women that I worked with, never more than one at any station.
As far as mental health and stigma….i tell people we all have”shit”. Anxiety, depression, traumatic memories, bad childhood stuff…..the list is endless. The problem….talking with friends and family is that they have all their hopes and dreams for you and their narrative is often skewed by that and thus unhelpful. When someone new comes to me, I tell them….”This is your time and your agenda, NOT mine.” I follow where they need to go….they “drive”, I “navigate” towards their intended outcome using my knowledge of the DSM-5 and tapping into THEIR internal wisdom. Everyone has EVERYTHING they need internally to heal. My job is to help them discover it in themselves and put it to sound use in a way that makes sense to them.
Acknowledging we all have our shit….helps to de-stigmatize mental health. Why not take care of the stuff between your ears if you are also willing to go to the dentist 2x/year and get your annual physical, bloodwork etc. what happens between our ears impacts our overall health in ways most cannot or will not accept
Yes that’s true that we need to take care of the “stuff between our ears” as well as the rest of our body. Some peoples unhappiness lies in the past. It may not have been traumatic but it does affect us. It keeps us unsure of our choices in life. We forever seek acceptance instead of thinking with conviction. I like your theory of allowing people to lead you to where they want to take it. Then they are opening up to the problem and are able to accept solutions they might not have considered because they just didn’t know. We DO LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES only if we accept we made a mistake in the first place! Thanks for your imput.
I saw a slogan on Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta's Thread - "Make Life Better". I think Dems could run with that. It's simple, clear and can be expanded to whatever group is being addressed.
Your discussion of the mathematics behind logic and music was great. My husband is more math and science minded than I am. He was the person in our household who understood that the initial spread of covid was, in his words, just math.
This non-emotional response helped me extricate myself from a high control religious group that eventually ended up being covid deniers, anti mask, antivax, and deeply distrustful of the Biden administration. Math and logic did that.
I agree with Rich!
I had 1 quarter of Logic in my small town community college. This was the first time I ever met an "AcTuAl DeMoCrAt", and he blew my mind wide open. After that is when I started deconstructing my White Christian Republican education and started thinking for myself.
Went to Jesuit HS and after studying years of Christianity on our senior year we studied all other religions and how they are all related.
yes 100%
This was the BEST episode! Pissed off 64 yo woman here. I'm with Rich on the class. Logic and critical thinking are needed badly in the US today. People in red states where education is bad and people are generationally poor lean on their religion in the hope their lives will get better. They buy lottery tickets and pray to Jesus. They feel resentment which simmers and becomes hate which leads to them liking the cruelty perpetuated by the Republucan party. They dont even realize that the repubs are hurting them too. They dont see it because that's their savior! And MAGA resonates with them where peeps like me and hubs look at MAGA and think that slogan is the Repubs saying our country is shit. We think logically. They dont. They look at me, 25 yrs at a company, making 50k and they dont understand how Im poor and homeless. But Im in CA, Im better educated, exposed to more diverse cultures than those poor red state peeps. (Im like Kris, no homework, aced tests.) But living in CA means 50k a year is low income and you cant find a place to live. But my education is why I dont drink the MAGA koolaid. If I couldnt think critically, being as poor as I am, I might buy into MAGA. On mental health Ben Meiselas says living paycheck to paycheck is a form of torture. It is psychological torture. Stress... ugh. Being poor = fear/stress= mental health issues. And yeah, I do have PTSD. But I can still think critically. ;)
Today felt like hanging with my friends
We felt that way as well!
I’m so proud you guys got to finally get together. 😭
I reference that Ricky Gervais quote often!
It's the best!
great discussion guys!
I'd like to see self defense taught as a requirement, even better if it was through kinds of traditional martial arts that teach not just the physical aspects but the respect and discipline aspects.
Not only might some people not be such ass hats but also everyone would have a basic idea of how to deal with those ass hats when they meet them.
That was great, glad you guys could get together.
Trump doesn't explain 'how', intentionally, as a tactic - when he doesn't explain, every maga person will fill in how he is going to accomplish that based on THEIR OWN opinion as to how - then they feel extremely smart, powerful, capable, and secure that things are going to go their way.
Never being told the story at all, they will finish the entire story in their heads with all the exact pieces necessary to manipulate them.
Now, when these people fill in these blanks, they use their personal identity/thoughts/opinions to fill in those blanks - THAT is how and why their identity is completey locked into what Trump says and his party.
I'd like Luke to have more time to speak his mind. He's only ever thrown in a random comment here and there. I think he might feel a little out of place being the youngest one, so if you guys can leave the door open for him and certain areas, thank you.
I had been waiting all week for this!