EVERYONE needs to put the pressure on the dnc about supporting progressives and how we CANNOT abandon minorities and leftist policies for the sake of corporate moderates. Do NOT sacrifice trans people to cater to moderates that probably won’t vote for a democrat anyway.
Dan Perry seems very intelligent, however he gives way too much credit to a corrupt, ignorant president. Sorry, but Donald Trump is good at one thing only, defrauding people for his own gain. Neither Trump nor those that surround him have the collective intelligence to war game successfully. If anything good comes out of any actions Trump takes, it’s just a happy coincidence.
I agree that he gives Trump too much credit. Trump's handlers from The Heritage Foundation are not dumb. They are the ones running the show. The Cabinet Secretaries were chosen for their loyalty and ability to "not recall", while Vought and Miller carry out their evil plans.
What Dan Perry and the boys touch on here is fascinating: Because Trump and his administration are breathtakingly incompetent, but at the same time eager and willing to just DO a lot of things, they will statistically do some good occasionally (probably not very often though).
Not on purpose, of course. They are usually laser focused on achieving something self-serving and cruel, but their recklessness sometimes causes things to 'backfire' in ways that accidentally benefit someone else.
Naturally, when the dust settles, they'll loudly claim it was all part of their genius master plan—because, let’s face it, they do that no matter what. Still, on those rare occasions when their chaos accidentally makes the world slightly less dangerous, I am willing to call it a win.
Zak: Precisely. Wake up DNC. Here's a model. Look at it. Understand it. Do it. Repeat it. But if the DNC won't wake up, the progressive candidates will and are. Hooray.
Really really good show with Dan Perry. Also you guys are right about Mamdani's campaign. The democrats have to wake up and smell the "cofefee." I only hope they stick beside him even though their favourite candidate had his head handed to him on a platter. Onward demo's, don't let the side down!
I find Dan Perry's position to be too "the end justifies the means" where Trump is concerned and also where Israel and Iran is concerned. That's my quick and immediate take.
Hey guys :) Still love your podcast. I’m listening from Norway. This discussion about socialism is so weird to me. We have free schools (universities). Free healthcare. For everyone. State owned media (in addition to commercial media). It’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but for all intents and purposes it works *really* well.
I feel like you sometimes talk about these concepts as if it’s something that couldn’t work for you. I beg to differ. This works.
I think you should bring on some people from Scandinavia on your show. People need to understand that there is an alternative out there 🤷🏻♂️
Dan Perry thinking that because Felon47 won 2 elections he is intelligent enough to carry out complex international policies is ridiculous! Mango Mussolini is a great campaigner because it’s like a reality show but that in no way translates to intelligent foreign or domestic policies. Usually I don’t agree with Zak but I loved his push back! Perry also seems to equate being a billionaire with being smart even when most of these billionaires inherited their money & didn’t earn it
Notice how Luke, the only one with a heart and Intelligence here, is looking like he's wondering how the hell he ended up on a Israel Government propaganda show.
I don't agree with most of what this guy is saying except that Trump is a criminal. I agree with Kris, I don't think Trump has any plans to help the people in Gaza. Agree with Zak, Trump has no plan but to enrich himself. I also don't think that the Arab nations will help Palestine because they are scared. They will figure out another way to deflect. Iran has no plan to play nice. I also saw a report that now Iran has extra motivation to build a Nuke asap if they are only set back a few months and there is no negotiation. Trump has no plan. I dont think you can give Trump props because he was rich and became president, he inherited that and was propped up and used by white nationalists and tech money and a manipulation machine NOT because he knows wtf he's doing.
Two distinct parts, two important discussions. Can we have y’all running the DNC…we’d actually have a political party worth a damn and have actions that match the message and a message that matches the moment.
The whole Zohran piece bled into the Iran piece by the end. It’s messaging. It’s Zac being comfortable giving Trump credit when a bully worked, while loudly maintaining a second idea that it’s only a short term strategy with no long term plan.
Zohran shows a playbook, and yeah I’d love me some progressive ideas like Universal Basic Income and Healthcare and Housing and Education and the lot, but start somewhere and relentlessly market that it works. Don’t politic it, person it. Show how it works and have people talk loudly and proudly (in their own words) about it working. Be unapologetic about the good and be naturally for something.
EVERYONE needs to put the pressure on the dnc about supporting progressives and how we CANNOT abandon minorities and leftist policies for the sake of corporate moderates. Do NOT sacrifice trans people to cater to moderates that probably won’t vote for a democrat anyway.
Dan Perry seems very intelligent, however he gives way too much credit to a corrupt, ignorant president. Sorry, but Donald Trump is good at one thing only, defrauding people for his own gain. Neither Trump nor those that surround him have the collective intelligence to war game successfully. If anything good comes out of any actions Trump takes, it’s just a happy coincidence.
I agree that he gives Trump too much credit. Trump's handlers from The Heritage Foundation are not dumb. They are the ones running the show. The Cabinet Secretaries were chosen for their loyalty and ability to "not recall", while Vought and Miller carry out their evil plans.
What Dan Perry and the boys touch on here is fascinating: Because Trump and his administration are breathtakingly incompetent, but at the same time eager and willing to just DO a lot of things, they will statistically do some good occasionally (probably not very often though).
Not on purpose, of course. They are usually laser focused on achieving something self-serving and cruel, but their recklessness sometimes causes things to 'backfire' in ways that accidentally benefit someone else.
Naturally, when the dust settles, they'll loudly claim it was all part of their genius master plan—because, let’s face it, they do that no matter what. Still, on those rare occasions when their chaos accidentally makes the world slightly less dangerous, I am willing to call it a win.
He is a Zionist, he only views things through an Israeli perspective
I am very hopeful. The under 40 year old folks are smart and ready for change. I am 52 and I see the energy. The good wave 🌊 is getting stronger.
Zak: Precisely. Wake up DNC. Here's a model. Look at it. Understand it. Do it. Repeat it. But if the DNC won't wake up, the progressive candidates will and are. Hooray.
@Fineout Team: Please reach out to Zohran and guide him. You guys are super smart and have tones of knowledge.
We already reached out :)
Really really good show with Dan Perry. Also you guys are right about Mamdani's campaign. The democrats have to wake up and smell the "cofefee." I only hope they stick beside him even though their favourite candidate had his head handed to him on a platter. Onward demo's, don't let the side down!
Sorry, but I don’t agree with everything your guest had to say. Bibi and him are one of the same.
And the election was really stolen this time. He has made money off of other people. Giving him way too much credit.
Agreed, this is embaressing for the podcast.
How so? They absolutely pushed back on Perry's bullshit takes.
I find Dan Perry's position to be too "the end justifies the means" where Trump is concerned and also where Israel and Iran is concerned. That's my quick and immediate take.
Hey guys :) Still love your podcast. I’m listening from Norway. This discussion about socialism is so weird to me. We have free schools (universities). Free healthcare. For everyone. State owned media (in addition to commercial media). It’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but for all intents and purposes it works *really* well.
I feel like you sometimes talk about these concepts as if it’s something that couldn’t work for you. I beg to differ. This works.
I think you should bring on some people from Scandinavia on your show. People need to understand that there is an alternative out there 🤷🏻♂️
Dan Perry thinking that because Felon47 won 2 elections he is intelligent enough to carry out complex international policies is ridiculous! Mango Mussolini is a great campaigner because it’s like a reality show but that in no way translates to intelligent foreign or domestic policies. Usually I don’t agree with Zak but I loved his push back! Perry also seems to equate being a billionaire with being smart even when most of these billionaires inherited their money & didn’t earn it
Notice how Luke, the only one with a heart and Intelligence here, is looking like he's wondering how the hell he ended up on a Israel Government propaganda show.
I don't agree with most of what this guy is saying except that Trump is a criminal. I agree with Kris, I don't think Trump has any plans to help the people in Gaza. Agree with Zak, Trump has no plan but to enrich himself. I also don't think that the Arab nations will help Palestine because they are scared. They will figure out another way to deflect. Iran has no plan to play nice. I also saw a report that now Iran has extra motivation to build a Nuke asap if they are only set back a few months and there is no negotiation. Trump has no plan. I dont think you can give Trump props because he was rich and became president, he inherited that and was propped up and used by white nationalists and tech money and a manipulation machine NOT because he knows wtf he's doing.
Think Zack has a better take but it would be nice for the world related yo this if the guest was correct. Thanks & here’s to being optimistic.
2nd half - I’m with Zak on this one. Appreciate his challenge to this lofty idea that T planned all this to make the mid-east a better place.
Two distinct parts, two important discussions. Can we have y’all running the DNC…we’d actually have a political party worth a damn and have actions that match the message and a message that matches the moment.
The whole Zohran piece bled into the Iran piece by the end. It’s messaging. It’s Zac being comfortable giving Trump credit when a bully worked, while loudly maintaining a second idea that it’s only a short term strategy with no long term plan.
Zohran shows a playbook, and yeah I’d love me some progressive ideas like Universal Basic Income and Healthcare and Housing and Education and the lot, but start somewhere and relentlessly market that it works. Don’t politic it, person it. Show how it works and have people talk loudly and proudly (in their own words) about it working. Be unapologetic about the good and be naturally for something.
Now to get the DNC to do it…
I was with Luke. 😂 I’d LOVE to know what’s going on in his head with the guest. 😂