Seeing some hate for Zak out of this one…y’all, come on. This is a discussion and debate—like the rest of us, Zak has beliefs that don’t align 100% with my views…ok. Get lost with your stupid ass Purity Tests. It’s a joke and it’s how we got here.
So sick of pissing on our own heads and calling it rain.
I love that you guys are talking about the Democratic messaging. I agree, the messaging around bombing Iran was insane! It should have been, as Tim suggested, about the 2016 Obama deal Trump ripped up and the hypocrisy of it. I am extremely worried that the midterms are not going to be the blue wave people are thinking it will be. People are tired of having to choose between two undesirable candidates. Democrats need to get their shit together if they want any chance of dominating in the next four years.
Trump started the fire by tearing up Obama’s deal and now blames everyone else. His actions alone put us in this situation. He is putting out a fire that HE STARTED
Zak you are being conned by the right even though you've supposedly, changed sides. You're right Tim they WERE HOLDING UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL. Now trump is just using his racism to forward his game. He doesn't care about anybody but HIMSELF and his bank account!
First of all if you don’t agree with every viewpoint in a discussion that’s ok but when you get ugly and start being negative you might as well be maga. Grow up and learn to listen to others, helps with critical thinking.
Also when do you think the democrats will get it together? Because at the present t all I see are hamsters racing around an obstacle course! I dont see any way we can win elections when they continue to bluster and give wishywashy statements that have no real meaning. Sure you see strong statements at times but no follow through. I get that they are the minority but could still keep their messaging sharp, but they keep missing the mark. For example the idea of constantly bringing up Trump killing the deal with Iran, which led to this current disaster, and also why keep yelling it’s unconstitutional whether it is or not? And if it is file a lawsuit, make it loud, keep hammering away that’s what people need to hear and see. Right now I can’t say I would be enthusiastic about any democrat they are all just meh. That’s my worry about midterms unless dems can pull someone out of their ass who can galvanize people.
And 128 democrats voting against impeachment. Not that I think that's going to do a damn thing, but they need to be a united front and they're not. I don't know what it's going to take for them to come together to fight for our country's democracy.
I don't think anyone should ever start their commentary with "I think he did the right thing" and then talk about everything wrong, which is everything. Like Tim said, everyone should start with Trump created this mess bc he is an arrogant asshole, he should have never asked Israel to bomb Iran and then start "defending" Israel and whatever nonsense with Iran assination plan of the Pres. It was all BS, the commentary in the media and moderate Dems is so f*ing blood boiling. Israel needs a regime change and has nuclear weapons.
Random idea, to start the podcast, do a "It's blank" saying your name and that's an intro. You could do a dice roll to decide who says it first. Just an idea. Roll off camera but roll with it
Rich you and I both know it’s a 50 year conversation bc Republicans ALWAYS wants to “gettem this time” it’s the political heroin they can’t live without. Was that way in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran. Every 20 years we do this! And then Dems show up and clean up the mess- and then get blamed for why we “lost” when it’s always just DUMB. But DT can’t help but try and do “what no one does”- owning the story is all that matters for him and them.
Luke thank you for calling out that women are part of the military ❤️
Seeing some hate for Zak out of this one…y’all, come on. This is a discussion and debate—like the rest of us, Zak has beliefs that don’t align 100% with my views…ok. Get lost with your stupid ass Purity Tests. It’s a joke and it’s how we got here.
So sick of pissing on our own heads and calling it rain.
We got here by placating to conservatives. This mentality is why the Democratic Party has dug itself into such a big hole.
I love that you guys are talking about the Democratic messaging. I agree, the messaging around bombing Iran was insane! It should have been, as Tim suggested, about the 2016 Obama deal Trump ripped up and the hypocrisy of it. I am extremely worried that the midterms are not going to be the blue wave people are thinking it will be. People are tired of having to choose between two undesirable candidates. Democrats need to get their shit together if they want any chance of dominating in the next four years.
Another great show. I love that you end with something personal.
we had peace with Obama and with Biden
Trump started the fire by tearing up Obama’s deal and now blames everyone else. His actions alone put us in this situation. He is putting out a fire that HE STARTED
Zak you are being conned by the right even though you've supposedly, changed sides. You're right Tim they WERE HOLDING UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL. Now trump is just using his racism to forward his game. He doesn't care about anybody but HIMSELF and his bank account!
Didn’t Tulsi say there weren’t any?
Are we talking about Tim's wallpaper? It's mesmerizing...
Zak is losing street cred. Whatever spin he tries, we are not in a better place geopolitically.
First of all if you don’t agree with every viewpoint in a discussion that’s ok but when you get ugly and start being negative you might as well be maga. Grow up and learn to listen to others, helps with critical thinking.
Also when do you think the democrats will get it together? Because at the present t all I see are hamsters racing around an obstacle course! I dont see any way we can win elections when they continue to bluster and give wishywashy statements that have no real meaning. Sure you see strong statements at times but no follow through. I get that they are the minority but could still keep their messaging sharp, but they keep missing the mark. For example the idea of constantly bringing up Trump killing the deal with Iran, which led to this current disaster, and also why keep yelling it’s unconstitutional whether it is or not? And if it is file a lawsuit, make it loud, keep hammering away that’s what people need to hear and see. Right now I can’t say I would be enthusiastic about any democrat they are all just meh. That’s my worry about midterms unless dems can pull someone out of their ass who can galvanize people.
And 128 democrats voting against impeachment. Not that I think that's going to do a damn thing, but they need to be a united front and they're not. I don't know what it's going to take for them to come together to fight for our country's democracy.
Ethnic cleansing against Kosovo was perpetrated by Serbia, not Bosnia.
Gah I knew I was gonna mess that up!
Not a problem! I just remember Serbia's massive aggression towards it's neighbors.
I don't think anyone should ever start their commentary with "I think he did the right thing" and then talk about everything wrong, which is everything. Like Tim said, everyone should start with Trump created this mess bc he is an arrogant asshole, he should have never asked Israel to bomb Iran and then start "defending" Israel and whatever nonsense with Iran assination plan of the Pres. It was all BS, the commentary in the media and moderate Dems is so f*ing blood boiling. Israel needs a regime change and has nuclear weapons.
Random idea, to start the podcast, do a "It's blank" saying your name and that's an intro. You could do a dice roll to decide who says it first. Just an idea. Roll off camera but roll with it
https://substack.com/@msswayzejr/note/c-129060777?r=46nrpc&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Really good & important discussion, and all great points made!
Rich you and I both know it’s a 50 year conversation bc Republicans ALWAYS wants to “gettem this time” it’s the political heroin they can’t live without. Was that way in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran. Every 20 years we do this! And then Dems show up and clean up the mess- and then get blamed for why we “lost” when it’s always just DUMB. But DT can’t help but try and do “what no one does”- owning the story is all that matters for him and them.